msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 855-7123 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344 msd pro mag information congratulations on selecting the msd pro mag C the most powerful and reliable magneto available! the following information will answer some of the questions you may come across concerning the pro mag. if you need more assistance, please contact our customer support department at (915) 855-7123 or drop an email to msdforms@msdperformance.com . initial timing setup a traditional buzz box cannot be used to set the timing of a pro mag because there are no mechanical points. the pro mag incorporates a high output magnetic pickup that ensures accurate timing and never requires adjustment. follow these steps to set timing: 1. position the crankshaft to your desired timing. 2. position the generator in the engine with the rotor tip leading into the #1 terminal of the cap (figure 1). 3. start the engine and verify the timing with a quality timing light such as msds pn 8992 or pn 8991. and adjust timing as needed. conventional timing vs. the pro mag when converting from a conventional (non-msd) mag - neto to a pro mag, it may be necessary to review your tune up. it is common for the ignition timing to accept a few degrees of retard or an increase in fuel to prevent lean mixtures. tak - ing the time to test and tune with small incremental changes will prove very benefcial. cap and rotor maintenance due to the spark energy that msd pro mags produce it is recommended to inspect the cap, rotor and spark plug wires at closer intervals. the components that are supplied with the pro mags are designed for strength and reliability but still require maintenance. visually inspect for excessive wear or carbon tracking. cap and rotors are available as a kit from your msd dealer: cap and rotor kit pn 7919 (red) pn 8119 generator standard chevy generator, pro mag 12lt (4" cap) band clamp generators (4" cap) (12, 20 and 44 amp versions) pro-cap: 5" cap - pn 7408 (red) or pn 74083 (black), rotor - pn 7423, base - pn 7456 (red) or pn 74563 (black) and rotor terminal - pn 7411. pn 79193 (black) parts included in this kit: 1 C 44 amp pro mag generator 1 C timing tape, pn 8126 msd 44 amp pro mag generator clockwise rotation - pn 8130, pn 81303, pn 81305 counterclockwise rotation C pn 8140, pn 81403, pn 81405 figure 1 rotor tip and cap alignment. distributor cap te rminal rotor ti p r o t a t i o n
2 user information cap-a-dapts when space permits, upgrading to a larger diameter magneto cap can add extra protection against spark scatter and crossfre. msd offers a cap-a-dapt for each style pro mag. each kit is sup - plied with everything required to install the new, large cap and rotor assembly. pro-cap, pn 7455 (5" cap) the largest cap and rotor available plus the entire assembly is molded from strong rynite material. designed for msd generators with a four inch diameter (figure 2). figure 2 pro-cap for pro mags, pn 7455. cross drives band clamp style pro mag generators are equipped with cross drives due to their strength but existing two and four pin drives will interchange. if the drive is replaced it is recommended to replace the lock nut. also use blue loctite and torque to 20 lbs-ft. check out techtips at www.msdpromag. com for more information. cranking rpm msd pro mags require a minimum generator speed of 200-250 rpm to start (at the crank). if a block mounted starter is used a 16 volt battery will be required to produce reliable starting rpm. blower pulley starters may require 48 volts on alcohol applications due to pulley drive ratios. on these ap - plications, a jumber wire should be connected across the coil terminals. once the engine reaches the required rpm this jumper should be pulled quickly from the terminals. msd offers high speed block mounted starters for various applications. spark plug wires msd only recommends using our 8.5mm super conductor spark plug wire. this wire features a copper-alloy conductor with a low resistance of 40 - 50 ohms per foot. the core and winding of the conductor produce a highly effective electro magnetic interference (emi) choke so it also has extremely high emi suppression capabilities. your spark plug wires should be inspected for cuts, abrasions, resistance and continuity. it should be noted that spark plug wire is a maintenance item of the ignition system and should be replaced at least three times per season. note that the coil wire should be replaced more frequently than the entire wire set due to handling eight times the energy. to ensure a quality crimp when building spark plug wire sets, use the msd pro crimp tool, pn 35051. this crimp tool is supplied with the correct crimp dies for the 8.5mm wire with msd dual crimp ter - minals. the dies are also replaceable, pn 3508. dynaforce high speed starters: ford 289, 302, 351w - pn 50902 ford bb 351m, 400, 429 - pn 50922 chevy 10 pitch/139 tooth - pn 50953 chevy 153/168 tooth, pro mag - pn 50952 (pefect for applications with magnetos that require 250+ rpm to start.) chevy 318 - 440 - pn 50982 msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 855-7123 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344
user information 3 figure 4 typical wiring on a tractor puller. warning: extremely high current and voltage is present on the pro mag coil terminals and on the kill switch relay. use extreme caution when working around the coil and relay. black sled break aw ay switch to 12 volt s 12v solenoid normall y closed ignition kill switch on dash ground (chassis) both switches ha ve to be closed to st art motor. if either switch opens the motor will stop . red *note: the sp acers must be inst alled between the wire terminals and rela y housing. sp acers* to coil to coil to pro mag ignition ground jumper wire lock wa sher nut tractor pull applica tions note: one kill switch per coil. kill switches 12 and 20 amp pro mags kill switches are supplied with the electronic points boxes for the 12 and 20 amp pro msd 44 amp pro mags msd 44 amp pro mags cannot be used with a common mechanical on/ off switch. a kill switch is available through msd, pn 8134. jumper wires across the coil terminals are required when starting the engine (figure 3). figure 3 44 amp kill switch, pn 8134 mags. each point box requires a kill switch. never use one kill switch for two points boxes. this msd switch, pn 8111, is the only kill switch rec - ommended for use with the pro mag. msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 855-7123 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344
4 user information generator support in some applications it is recommended that a generator support bracket be fabricated. due to the variety of mounting applications, msd does not offer a single mag bracket. for applications using two pro mags it is recommended to use the dual mag stabilizer bracket, pn 301821-0004 from rcd engineering, wwwrcdengineering.com. note that the connectors have numbered terminals. match the color wire with the position as follows: 12 and 20 amp 44 amp #1 violet #2 green #4 yellow #3 black #1 violet #2 green #4 red #3 black wiring and connectors msd uses deutsch connectors with the pro mag. these connectors should be inspected due to frequent disconnecting. lightly pulling on the wires near the connector will make certain they have not worked loose. the connectors can be disassembled as follows: 1. remove the orange wedge lock with a small fat blade screwdriver. 2. pry the spring lock back to unlock the wire, and pull it through. 3. inspect the wire crimps and reassemble. 12 and 20 amp mag connector. 44 amp mag connector. for more information on connectors, check out tech tips at www.msdpromag.com. msd offers a special kit consisting of connectors used with the promag 44. the kit pn 8124 is de - signed for feld repairs. to ground on cylinder head black red ignition tm chassis ground gmr pickup note: the brass screw must be used for proper operation. primary coil (+) wire or diesel injector 12 volt wire washer must be on top of metal tab metal tab black ground gmr pickup red green switched 12 volt signal output t o rpm +12v sq wave device pn 8918 figure 5 gmr to pn 8963 shift light on pro mag 44 electronic points box. msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 855-7123 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344
user information 5 tachometers and data acquisition equipment tachometers and data acquisition systems require a certain type of trigger signal. most of these systems require either a 12-volt square wave signal or a current style inductive pickup. msd has components that can provide both signal types. tach converter, pn 8132 this converts the pro mags signal to a 12-volt square wave with a 20% duty cycle. it will work on all pro mag systems and requires a 12 volt battery source. tach terminal the msd timing retard, pn 8168 has a tach output terminal that pro - vides a 12 volt square wave signal. grid tach lead gray - tach figure 7 wiring a tachometer with the tach converter. t ach trigger wire red to switched 12v orange from pro mag brown/black indica tes connection brown/orange pro mag/vertex brown/yellow other magnetos or black from pro mag mag kill switch black to ba ttery (-) terminal violet pro mag ta ch conver ter pn 8132 autotronic controls corpora tion 1490 henr y brennan., el p aso , tx 79936 tm ignition t ach figure 6 wiring a tachometer with the tach converter. msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 855-7123 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344
6 user information for repairs and component checks, you can send your pro mags to msd. for information on maintenance or warranty work please contact the msd magneto department at (915) 856-2785 (7 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.). pro mag service crank triggers crank triggers are available for all msd pro mag systems. for more information call the factory for specifc applications. figure 8 crank trigger installation. 44 amp ground path both heads must be grounded to a point on the chassis that is shared with the negative coil ter - minals. the points boxes should share ground with the pn 8168 retard box (if used) which is also grounded to the battery and chassis. figure 9 44 amp pro mag ground path. msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 855-7123 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344
user information 7 v-net cable msd can legacy ignition switched ignition 12v green - step 5 lt. green - step 4 tan - step 3 violet - step 2 pink - step 1 blue - launch lt. blue - burn out brn/white rpm/time switch white - points in (not used) gray - tach yellow - shift light green green violet violet red not used white orange black msd rpm receptical violet not used ignition black red chassis ground to ground on cylinder head 12v 12v 12v 12v shift or fuel solenoi d line lock switch transbrake or clutch switch lt. blue - burn out + - battery positive battery negative green white violet violet bare black or 3-wire leahy curved crank trigger mag pickup connector figure 11 msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 855-7123 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344
limited warranty m sd warrants this product to be free from defects in material and workmanship under its intended normal use*, when properly installed and purchased from an authorized msd dealer, for a period of one year from the date of the original purchase. this warranty is void for any products purchased through auction websites. if found to be defective as mentioned above, it will be repaired or replaced at the option of msd. any item that is covered under this warranty will be returned free of charge using ground shipping methods. this shall constitute the sole remedy of the purchaser and the sole liability of msd. to the extent permitted by law, the foregoing is exclusive and in lieu of all other warranties or representation whether expressed or implied, including any implied warranty of merchantability or ftness. in no event shall msd or its suppliers be liable for special or consequential damages. *intended normal use means that this item is being used as was originally intended and for the original application as sold by msd. any modifcations to this item or if it is used on an application other than what msd markets the product, the warranty will be void. it is the sole responsibility of the customer to determine that this item will work for the application they are intending. msd will accept no liability for custom applications. service in case of malfunction, this msd component will be repaired free of charge according to the terms of the warranty. when returning msd components for warranty service, proof of purchase must be supplied for verifcation. after the warranty period has expired, repair service is based on a minimum and maximum fee. all returns must have a return material authorization (rma) number issued to them before being returned. to obtain an rma number please contact msd customer service at 1 (888) msd-7859 or visit our website at www.msdperformance.com/rma to automatically obtain a number and shipping information. when returning the unit for repair, leave all wires at the length in which you have them installed. be sure to include a detailed account of any problems experienced, and what components and accessories are installed on the vehicle. the repaired unit will be returned as soon as possible using ground shipping methods (ground shipping is covered by warranty). for more information, call msd at (915) 855-7123. msd technicians are available from 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. monday - friday (mountain time). msd ?? www.msdperformance.com ? ? ? (915) ? 857-5200 ? ? ? fax ? (915) ? 857-3344 ? 2013 autotronic controls corporation frm31941 revised 09/13 printed in u.s.a. tech notes _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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